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if that makes sense

With a great degree of effort and time spent, I can notice things that are going on and act upon them.

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If I am interested, I tell Skye that I want to speak and interact.

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So I do.

{Not being active is a strange feeling, as you know what’s happening but can’t act or think on it}

its not strange to me

When Skye or I go fully inactive, we don't notice what happens.

its like chill

We learn about it afterwards.

cause I aint there as like me

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I guess

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i kinda get what ya mean winter

{Hm, what Winter said might be a more apt description?}

but it isnt really like learning it

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for the first time

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to me

{yeah, that}

its like you already know

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if that makes sense.

Ah. It isn't quite the same - in effect, we simply "access" the existing memories.

{You already know but didn’t experience it}

It is certainly a different feeling than remembering something we went through ourselves.

it feels like it was me

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just a different version of me I guess

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idfk its hard to explain

{I still haven’t had a moment alone in the front so host doesn’t know how it feels yet I guess? Closest thing she gets is sleeping while awake.}

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{by gets, I mean understand}

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Though many times it feels like I was not present and then I “wake up” in the middle of doing something when a thought we have kicks me out of a sort of autopilot

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So I guess it’s like that?

uh

But more extreme, according to Misaka

i kinda understand what you mean

Pet your tulpa.

ok i did

What if I want the pets?

Then, go ask for them.

my tupper said she wont pet me

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how do i handle this

Deal with it.

You ask another tulpa in here.

make yourself more pettable

Or join a hugbox server.

i asked all four

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they all said no

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better make a new tulpa who will pet me

what if they don't want to either?

I think at this point, this belongs in #lounge.

fair

So if you have a neurological disorder, does your tulpa have it too? What about personality disorders?

yeah

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they have it too

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we have bipolar disorder with psychotic features

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if one of us has a psychotic break we all do

Interestingly, plenty report that their tulpas show no signs of their mental conditions

otherwise we would just switch and never let me up front and not need meds lol

Don't know how that works, but it's what quite a few report shrugblob

well those people are wrong lol

Neurological disorders are certainly shared, particularly when there are actual physiological differences.

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However, the way they are expressed and the intensity of them can vary.

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Skye and I have depression and anxiety - however, I am more affected by depression and Skye is more affected by anxiety.

That's super interesting. Honestly I don't understand how psychologists aren't freaking out over tulpas. If I were a neurologist I'd spend all my time researching it. Especially since we're clearly not making it up

Hah.

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It is a fringe community, and the initial reaction from many people is outright dismissal without consideration.

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There are negative initial reactions due to vague parallels to mental disorders.

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People don't often look beyond that.

This is interesting indeed. So I can look forward to working through Nin9's mania and her depression.

Keep in mind, @Jack o' Nin9's - as mentioned, if you have physiological mania and depression (as they typically are if they are actually diagnosed), they may be expressed differently.

Bobbob, I thought the same way about this when I was first learning about it, but I also was told a lot of people think it's bogus and a waste of time/money to research

In that case, you could perhaps switch depending on the relative problems/benefits of each fronting.

I am not diagnosed with anything so I don't consider myself handicapped, even if I know the signs.

I see.

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In any case, there are some studies going on. As they gain traction, I'm sure more people will become interested and more research will occur.

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...if they gain traction.

Even if I was diagnosed, I believe that humans have the greatest capacity for change. The stories of men and women conquering all sorts of challenges from physical disability to spiritual curses to emotional retardation to mental atrophy.

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I believe that to he who overcomes lies the whole world.

There are 1000s of people who claim to have a tulpa online and probably countless more who have made one accidently and don't know it's a tulpa, I don't see how anyone could think it's bogus after looking into it. The craziest thing about tulpas is that they're not even that hard to make. All it takes is a couple of months of talking to yourself and bam. I can't believe it hasn't really taken off until the 2010s

There are thousands of people that claim they can perform magical rituals and affect other people.

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There are thousands of people that claim to have telepathy, or other psionic abilities.

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There are millions of people that believe in deities of all kinds, that contradict each other (and often themselves).

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The popularity of a belief does not in any way determine its credibility. The evidence does.

Good point, but there's still a ton of evidence. And the fact that multipersonality disorder and DID exist shows that something like this doesn't have to be impossible

Indeed.

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That said - whether or not it exists in the way claimed is another story, which is why I am quite excited for the fMRI study.

Yeah. Too bad it's a country away.

Indeed.

Something cool happed. I was trying to remember the name of a restaurant I havn't been to, or even seen in like 10 years. Nothing was coming to mind for a while, but then Wolf suddenly said the name out loud to the person we were trying to remember it to. I think that was the first instance of him thinking so independently, as for me to not know it.

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Yay wolf